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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by Vet4life63</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vet4life63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Piratepen, I hear what you are saying. Very awesome that your family did all that. Remained clean, were not a burden to this country and made contributions. 

BUT

You cannot say that all immigrants contribute. You cannot say that there are &quot;only a few&quot; bad apples, there are many more than a &quot;few&quot;. You cannot say all immigrants are &quot;bad&quot; either or even most are &quot;bad&quot;, just as you cannot say there are not quite a few that are &quot;good&quot;. I think what anyone that has a problem with immigration is referring to, is NOT immigrants that are like your family. Its the ones with the crappy attitudes, &quot;We are going to take you over, and you cant do anything about it&quot; attitudes. That in and of itself is a taunt. Go to any nation and taunt the inhabitants and see if they like you. So, It seems that we have some that contribute, some that are blood suckers, and some that dont contribute and yet dont do harm. 

Just food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Piratepen, I hear what you are saying. Very awesome that your family did all that. Remained clean, were not a burden to this country and made contributions. </p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>You cannot say that all immigrants contribute. You cannot say that there are &#8220;only a few&#8221; bad apples, there are many more than a &#8220;few&#8221;. You cannot say all immigrants are &#8220;bad&#8221; either or even most are &#8220;bad&#8221;, just as you cannot say there are not quite a few that are &#8220;good&#8221;. I think what anyone that has a problem with immigration is referring to, is NOT immigrants that are like your family. Its the ones with the crappy attitudes, &#8220;We are going to take you over, and you cant do anything about it&#8221; attitudes. That in and of itself is a taunt. Go to any nation and taunt the inhabitants and see if they like you. So, It seems that we have some that contribute, some that are blood suckers, and some that dont contribute and yet dont do harm. </p>
<p>Just food for thought.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gone fishing by Green-Eyed Momster</title>
		<link>http://kidswithoutreligion.wordpress.com/2009/05/27/gone-fishing/#comment-1669</link>
		<dc:creator>Green-Eyed Momster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 20:36:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait to read more.  I just found you via Turgid.....
I found your old blog and I left a comment there too for you to post again.  Then I found this one today.

I&#039;ll check back with you later!!

Hugs!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait to read more.  I just found you via Turgid&#8230;..<br />
I found your old blog and I left a comment there too for you to post again.  Then I found this one today.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll check back with you later!!</p>
<p>Hugs!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by piratepenpen</title>
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		<dc:creator>piratepenpen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and yes - some of the first gens in my family are high ranking officials in the military. Give people a chance and they will contribute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and yes &#8211; some of the first gens in my family are high ranking officials in the military. Give people a chance and they will contribute.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by piratepenpen</title>
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		<dc:creator>piratepenpen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandparents are from Mexico. I am 3/4 Mexican, 1/4 white and according the the census I am counted as the Hispanic group. 

My parents were first generation Americans. Yes, born on American soil from illegal parents. They all went to college and have spot free criminal records - including my grandparents, and all my uncles, and all my aunts, cousins, second cousins and the rest of my family tree.

They never were on welfare. They paid taxes. They worked in the fields day and night. My grandparents came here with the dream that their futures will be full of success and we pulled through for them.

MANY of my friends are second generation Americans as well and our families have been successful as well. I honestly think that the media is making a frenzy out of a few bad apples.

*side note* My grandmother learned English from doing crossword puzzles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandparents are from Mexico. I am 3/4 Mexican, 1/4 white and according the the census I am counted as the Hispanic group. </p>
<p>My parents were first generation Americans. Yes, born on American soil from illegal parents. They all went to college and have spot free criminal records &#8211; including my grandparents, and all my uncles, and all my aunts, cousins, second cousins and the rest of my family tree.</p>
<p>They never were on welfare. They paid taxes. They worked in the fields day and night. My grandparents came here with the dream that their futures will be full of success and we pulled through for them.</p>
<p>MANY of my friends are second generation Americans as well and our families have been successful as well. I honestly think that the media is making a frenzy out of a few bad apples.</p>
<p>*side note* My grandmother learned English from doing crossword puzzles.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by dam</title>
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		<dc:creator>dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 19:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh. Very cool, Vet4life. How did you learn so many languages? My older son in particular has asked me over and over again about learning both Chinese and Italian. I think I have killed his interest because I keep telling him, I&#039;ll find a class for him to take. There are no course offerings for middle-schoolers, except for Spanish--and that is a joke at his school. I could get him into a community college, but it is hard finding time...Any suggestions for learning how to actually speak a language? (Short of living in that country!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh. Very cool, Vet4life. How did you learn so many languages? My older son in particular has asked me over and over again about learning both Chinese and Italian. I think I have killed his interest because I keep telling him, I&#8217;ll find a class for him to take. There are no course offerings for middle-schoolers, except for Spanish&#8211;and that is a joke at his school. I could get him into a community college, but it is hard finding time&#8230;Any suggestions for learning how to actually speak a language? (Short of living in that country!)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Building Social Capital by chicagodad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chicagodad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just bringing my pro-business perspective to the table yet again. =P

Very cool article though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just bringing my pro-business perspective to the table yet again. =P</p>
<p>Very cool article though.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by Vet4life63</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vet4life63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Russian:
Ваши дети могут выучить поговорить китайца. I don&#039; t хочет вас думать что я настолько шальн что я себя не знаю другие языки. Я знаю французское, китайское, Japenese, русского, и испанский язык. Я выучил их потому что я хотел к. Когда персона принуждается, она после этого что вы найдете сопротивление. Не принудьте ваших детей выучить китайца, позвольте любопытству препятствовать им выучить на там имейте

Translation from Russian to English:
Your children can learn to speak Chinese. I don&#039;t want you to think that I am so crazy that I do not know other languages myself. I know French, Chinese, Japenese, Russian, and Spanish. I learned them because I wanted to. When a person is forced, it is then that you will find resistance. Do not force your children to learn chinese, allow curiosity to let them learn on there own
God Bless</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Russian:<br />
Ваши дети могут выучить поговорить китайца. I don&#8217; t хочет вас думать что я настолько шальн что я себя не знаю другие языки. Я знаю французское, китайское, Japenese, русского, и испанский язык. Я выучил их потому что я хотел к. Когда персона принуждается, она после этого что вы найдете сопротивление. Не принудьте ваших детей выучить китайца, позвольте любопытству препятствовать им выучить на там имейте</p>
<p>Translation from Russian to English:<br />
Your children can learn to speak Chinese. I don&#8217;t want you to think that I am so crazy that I do not know other languages myself. I know French, Chinese, Japenese, Russian, and Spanish. I learned them because I wanted to. When a person is forced, it is then that you will find resistance. Do not force your children to learn chinese, allow curiosity to let them learn on there own<br />
God Bless</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by dam</title>
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		<dc:creator>dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Vet4life, I do understand--and I agree. Parts of Mexico have serious drug and violence problems. The police are corrupt. We don&#039;t want that here. I think we agree on many points. I am fiscally conservative (as it sounds like you are), and I DON&#039;T want to pay for people who don&#039;t participate and who don&#039;t contribute. We agree there, too. 

Yes, I understand that you don&#039;t want to be forced to learn another culture (though you appreciate everyone keeping their own). You want people who come here to adopt our American culture. That is reasonable. I think I am approaching it from a mother&#039;s perspective--I see how our world has &quot;flattened out&quot; and I want my kids to be able to prepared (i.e. they need to learn Chinese!). Also, speaking other languages IS good for a child&#039;s brain! It also will help my kids get jobs one day. And, I want my kids just to learn and understand other cultures, so they will not be prejudiced. But, these are separate issues from your points.

The funny thing is, if you travel overseas, it doesn&#039;t matter what color you are or where your ancestors come from--we&#039;re all American. 

Peace, Debbie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Vet4life, I do understand&#8211;and I agree. Parts of Mexico have serious drug and violence problems. The police are corrupt. We don&#8217;t want that here. I think we agree on many points. I am fiscally conservative (as it sounds like you are), and I DON&#8217;T want to pay for people who don&#8217;t participate and who don&#8217;t contribute. We agree there, too. </p>
<p>Yes, I understand that you don&#8217;t want to be forced to learn another culture (though you appreciate everyone keeping their own). You want people who come here to adopt our American culture. That is reasonable. I think I am approaching it from a mother&#8217;s perspective&#8211;I see how our world has &#8220;flattened out&#8221; and I want my kids to be able to prepared (i.e. they need to learn Chinese!). Also, speaking other languages IS good for a child&#8217;s brain! It also will help my kids get jobs one day. And, I want my kids just to learn and understand other cultures, so they will not be prejudiced. But, these are separate issues from your points.</p>
<p>The funny thing is, if you travel overseas, it doesn&#8217;t matter what color you are or where your ancestors come from&#8211;we&#8217;re all American. </p>
<p>Peace, Debbie.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by Vet4life63</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vet4life63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 16:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you as well dam, Immigration is how this country was made the way it is today. Illegal immigration, is never going to do anything good, because a larger % of illegals are what I term as &quot;undesirables&quot;. Criminals, drug runners, transport coyotes, and anyone else who wouldn&#039;t qualify &quot;fairly&quot; and &quot;legally&quot;.

I think that if all people are equal, then all people have a right to there own soverighnity, meaning If your a black man, raised in a black culture, or a mexican man raised in a mexican culture, I wouldn&#039;t want to &quot;change&quot; ( and probably would be unsuccessful anyway) your identity, or rob you of your heritage and culture. I also wouldn&#039;t want you doing that to me, and no thanks, I do not care to &quot;exchange&quot; my culture for someone elses. I am perfectly happy with my own identitiy. The reason that many people get in such a uproar about illegals, as well as legal immigrants, is because some tend to try to &quot;push there culture down our throats&quot;, meaning see, I am here, i am now in your country, there are many more coming, now YOU HAVE TO BE JUST LIKE US, OR AT LEAST A COMPOSITE OF US. Whooooa buddy. We dont &quot;have to do nothing.. My biggest gripe is that If I wanna be who I am, and if I wanna be surrounded with others like myself, and from my own culture, then I should be able to do that in my own country. What happens, when you have widescale immigration, is a saturation of the area ( as in Finney KS) with people from other cultures. That in and of itself isn&#039;t a issue, it only becomes  a issue when they want me to speak THEIR LANGUAGE... Hmmmm EXCUSE me? This is not Mexico, this is not Kenya, This is America, and the official language is English. Comprende&#039; amigo? Many traditional white people take it as a insult, when someone comes to there country, and will not learn the language. I can see why. If I were to move to france I would be speaking the french language as if I were from france, as a sign of respect, or at least attempt to learn it, if that is where my home would be! (parler la langue française comme si j&#039;étais la France, comme signe de respect, ou essayez au moins de l&#039;apprendre, si c&#039;est où ma maison serait !) 

Yes and a new life is a great thing. I have nothing against AMerica offering that, but not at the detriment of America. If we waste taxpayer money, its wrong, if we have increased crime from immigration, then we need to screen much better, or cut down the flow of immigrants. If we can no longer support a population ( it continues to grow at a alarming rate) then we need to say sorry elevator only holds 12, and there are 15 on here now.. no more.

Thats what I was saying.

As for being white,I am 1/2.. the other half Chippewa, were almost wiped out in the last immigration influx.

&quot;Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you as well dam, Immigration is how this country was made the way it is today. Illegal immigration, is never going to do anything good, because a larger % of illegals are what I term as &#8220;undesirables&#8221;. Criminals, drug runners, transport coyotes, and anyone else who wouldn&#8217;t qualify &#8220;fairly&#8221; and &#8220;legally&#8221;.</p>
<p>I think that if all people are equal, then all people have a right to there own soverighnity, meaning If your a black man, raised in a black culture, or a mexican man raised in a mexican culture, I wouldn&#8217;t want to &#8220;change&#8221; ( and probably would be unsuccessful anyway) your identity, or rob you of your heritage and culture. I also wouldn&#8217;t want you doing that to me, and no thanks, I do not care to &#8220;exchange&#8221; my culture for someone elses. I am perfectly happy with my own identitiy. The reason that many people get in such a uproar about illegals, as well as legal immigrants, is because some tend to try to &#8220;push there culture down our throats&#8221;, meaning see, I am here, i am now in your country, there are many more coming, now YOU HAVE TO BE JUST LIKE US, OR AT LEAST A COMPOSITE OF US. Whooooa buddy. We dont &#8220;have to do nothing.. My biggest gripe is that If I wanna be who I am, and if I wanna be surrounded with others like myself, and from my own culture, then I should be able to do that in my own country. What happens, when you have widescale immigration, is a saturation of the area ( as in Finney KS) with people from other cultures. That in and of itself isn&#8217;t a issue, it only becomes  a issue when they want me to speak THEIR LANGUAGE&#8230; Hmmmm EXCUSE me? This is not Mexico, this is not Kenya, This is America, and the official language is English. Comprende&#8217; amigo? Many traditional white people take it as a insult, when someone comes to there country, and will not learn the language. I can see why. If I were to move to france I would be speaking the french language as if I were from france, as a sign of respect, or at least attempt to learn it, if that is where my home would be! (parler la langue française comme si j&#8217;étais la France, comme signe de respect, ou essayez au moins de l&#8217;apprendre, si c&#8217;est où ma maison serait !) </p>
<p>Yes and a new life is a great thing. I have nothing against AMerica offering that, but not at the detriment of America. If we waste taxpayer money, its wrong, if we have increased crime from immigration, then we need to screen much better, or cut down the flow of immigrants. If we can no longer support a population ( it continues to grow at a alarming rate) then we need to say sorry elevator only holds 12, and there are 15 on here now.. no more.</p>
<p>Thats what I was saying.</p>
<p>As for being white,I am 1/2.. the other half Chippewa, were almost wiped out in the last immigration influx.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Whites Minority in Finney Co, Kansas by dam</title>
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		<dc:creator>dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Ironically, I just found your long posts in the spam section of the comments....Don&#039;t know how that happens, but here they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Ironically, I just found your long posts in the spam section of the comments&#8230;.Don&#8217;t know how that happens, but here they are.</p>
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